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mollyL
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« on: September 23, 2008, 12:33:54 PM »

There are two boys in our group who are what would be called over-competitive, but to my mind they are extremely bad sports. We had a "Jeopardy" game rigged up for our kids, complete with lights and buzzers. It was boys against the girls, and the boys went over the top this time. They were trying to hit the buzzers first, with their fingers poised over the buttons, they were loud and abusive when the girls didn't have the correct answer, and when the boys had the correct answer they were up and dancing, yelling that they were the winners and the girls were the losers. I think it got to where the girls didn't even want to hit the buzzer because they were afraid they'd be wrong. The biggest problem is that one of the boys is our leader's son, and the other boy is the boyscout leader's grandson. We don't want to hurt anyone's feelings but we're going to have to talk to the kid's parents. My husband and my partner have come up with several diplomatic ways to present it, but I'd like your feedback as well for more good ideas to present this. I'm really steamed at the boy's behavior and I don't feel like being diplomatic!
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« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2008, 03:51:52 PM »

I play a lot of games in my class and I always make sure to stress the rules of good sportsmanship.  I let the students know that being a bad sport or disrespectful is unacceptable.  The first time it happens the team loses points, the second time they lose a turn, and from there it becomes a discipline issue that may lead to a referral...I let them know this upfront.  I also let them know that whether or not we play games in the future is completely up to them...if they are well behaved and respectful is the only way we will continue to play games in the class.
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« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2008, 01:15:00 AM »

I think Adam is making a very good point here...indiscipline by any one be it the leader's son should not be tolerated and if they are behaving in such a way during a simple game then imagine their behaviour during other academic matters...so yes..games are indeed a good time to induce some discipline in fun ways as adam suggested....
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« Reply #3 on: September 24, 2008, 10:59:32 AM »

I totally agree with the both of you; it is bad sportsmanship and points should be taken off for bad behavior. It's hard to institute that by yourself , though, at the time it was happening, with core members at different parts of the hall.
The reason I said it was the leader's son is not out of any fear of retribution; rather it is because she is such a kind and giving soul we hate to give her more bad news (as she's had alot these last few months) so we are searching for the kindest way to bring up her son's bad behavior.
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« Reply #4 on: September 24, 2008, 01:52:14 PM »

I would definitely talk to the parents of the boys and explain exactly what happened and that their behavior is unacceptable and hurting the feeling of other students. Please let us know how it goes for you.
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« Reply #5 on: September 24, 2008, 07:26:25 PM »

Waxler really has a good way to tackle indiscipline in playing a game or sport. Use his idea and I am sure you will stand a better chance in dealing the problem that you have as compared to talking to their parents.
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« Reply #6 on: September 25, 2008, 05:05:53 PM »

I'm not sure I would talk to the parents yet, I think it would be worth following the advice about games, you should also have very clear sanctions fo those who spoil the games by bad behaviour.
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« Reply #7 on: September 25, 2008, 05:26:41 PM »

Waxler really has a good way to tackle indiscipline in playing a game or sport. Use his idea and I am sure you will stand a better chance in dealing the problem that you have as compared to talking to their parents.

 Smiley  I agree... it sounds like a very good plan.  I think that being allowed "two strikes" before disciplinary action (beyond losing a turn, etc.) is
quite generous and I hope the kids learn some good lessons in sportsmanship because of it.
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« Reply #8 on: September 26, 2008, 02:30:09 PM »

I agree I think disicipline is very important. I think when playing a game is a good time to show kids how to behave. Keep up the good work.
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« Reply #9 on: September 26, 2008, 04:47:39 PM »

I agree with the above. There is no reason that sort of behavior should be tolerated, so be sure to discipline next time before it gets out of hand again.
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« Reply #10 on: September 30, 2008, 10:44:22 AM »

I agree I think disicipline is very important. I think when playing a game is a good time to show kids how to behave. Keep up the good work.

With this in mind, shouldn't the teams been a mixture of male and female students instead of males vs. females?  ONe of the behaviors needed in the real world is the cooperation between male and female, and the avoidance of sweeping generalities.  The divisions in this case seem to have allowed the males to exercise attitudes that render females "second rate" students.

Is it just me?
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